Overwhelming Support for Bramcote Unity Park Planning Application

88% of the participants of this evening’s Bramcote Neighbourhood Forum meeting voted to support the Bramcote Unity Park Planning application. This vote will be conveyed to the Planning Committees’ of Nottingham City Council and Broxtowe Borough Council. There will be an additional request for the Council’s to examine in detail the funding of the Park.

Further details will be published on Bramcote Neighbourhood Forum’s website.

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  1. The Ridge is designated as a Grade II SINC, (Site Important for Nature Conservation), and an ‘Area of Restricted Development’. We must not let this fact be overlooked or ‘forgotten’ when it comes to planning what to do with the land.

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    1. The land for the proposed development is a local wildlife site (LWS). This is a non statutory designation which means it has very little protection in planning terms.
      Alexandrina Plantation and Sandy Lane Public Open Space are Local Nature Reserves (LNR).
      I have search for information on SINCS and I have not been able to find any. If anybody can produce evidence that the proposed development land is a SINC, then I am sure everybody will be pleased to hear from them.

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      1. My impression is that the term SINC was replaced by LWS.
        There is a large LWS at Toton Sidings which is intended to disappear under the car park for HS2.

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  2. Can you actually knock on doors in Bramcote and speak to the people this will affect ..so totally wrong! Has the past few months months taught you nothing ..there is housing out there fir those that can afford it..you are not contributing to those that can’t afford the current market . This is absolutely wrong on all levels ..this isn’t your green land to sell..this is the communities the wildlife and the people who own around it ..what compensation are you offering to us when it affects our house prices without the views we have ..because I suggest you look into that too ..you build here ..I want compensation for my house price dropping without the nature I look at everyday now

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  3. I cannot believe this. I for one am vehemently against this desecration of an important wildlife corridor and green belt. I tried to join this call but was denied access when I entered the code. How many others didn’t have the opportunity to comment ? This isn’t even affordable housing; it’s clearly all about profiting.
    There will be an environmental impact and potential flooding of local properties. Disgraceful decision. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Don’t you care about flora and fauna??

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  4. 88% of the participants on the night dies not make it the overriding majority of the community that surrounds that area, it just means it the majority of the people that turned up. There are far better places to develop/rebuild than on an area od designated site important to nature conservation. What is it with this let’s rip up everything in nature (which we need the world needs, especially trees, old ones and areas of ancient trees have more diverse nature depending on it) why can’t you look at more brownfield sites or redeveloping deralict houses, or area of old office blocks or shopping centres for that matter. Leave our green sites alone.

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  5. Further information from a local wildlife conservation area point of view, including management plan, is available here. It recognises that some of the land is privately owned but also how the land functions collectively as ‘one ecological unit’. https://www.broxtowe.gov.uk/localnaturereserves

    I felt that the proposals were largely presented and discussed in a positive light during the meeting, which (to be honest) I found a little surprising – I imagined there would be more wider debate/critique of the plans, but guess perhaps this happened at previous meetings (if so, my fault for not attending!). There was little discussion of the most obvious potential negative impact, which would be the loss of greenspace/potential impact upon existing habitat (even if some of it is privately owned). A lot of focus was put on the positive impact of removing the knotweed, however, as was also pointed out, if this is largely spreading from the area of private land (as it appeared to be from the site plan) then the landowner could potentially be responsible for removing it anyway, regardless of the development going ahead.
    Personally, I can see that the proposals have some pros as well as cons, and I hadn’t appreciated the extent of the area that is privately owned. However, I would be keen to hear what an organisation like Notts Wildlife Trust thinks the overall potential ecological impact would be – positive or negative – I understand that they will be responding (but I’m unsure if their response is available publicly)…

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    1. Thank you, this helps explain the vote. I was not able to join the meeting and am still unsure whether I’ve been accepted as a member of Bramcote Forum as I’m classed as Beeston North despite living literally next to this area!
      I attended the previous meeting where this is discussed but the meetings are run by one person and I found it confusing how to even raise a comment or question. Complete waste of time. However FB comments onBeeston updated would suggest opposition is growing I would even go as far as saying this vote is irrelevant. I just wish they’d stop splashing the meaningless 88% in favour everywhere!

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    2. Thanks. This explains the majority vote then! This forum is not a meeting it’s a presentation by one man. Very confusing to comment/question and he has to read them out. No chance for a discussion. Luckily I don’t think the views of this forum will count for much. Opposition is growing on social media and in the community

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  6. I’d like you to be very specific on what you class as overwhelming support and not just a few old idiots in am office.
    We would like to see published details on numbers and how you came up with them.
    Where you advertised for the responses and the time line it was over. It needs to be posted on forums that aren’t zoom and if you ever asked the community in the local area they would very clearly say stop messing with our natural spaces. YOU have caused enough damage already.
    Pile what money you have at usefull ideas so your not complaining that you have no budget left in a few months.

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    1. Oh that explains the majority vote then! The meetings are confusing to comment on and more if a presentation than an exchange of views!

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  7. I am absolutely astounded that this scheme has been given approval by the Bramcote Neighbourhood Forum.
    Why are people so intent on destroying our countryside, blithely agreeing to housing developments regardless as to whether they will decimate Green Belt land/ wildlife corridors. There’s already extensive house building at Field Farm with more proposed, planning permission sought for houses to be built on land adjacent to Bramcote crematorium, Coventry Lane playing fields and a retirement complex on the old golf course site not to mention the negative impact HS2 will have on the surrounding area. Why and how is this being allowed to happen?

    Broxtowe is already a densely populated area with the infrastructure barely able to cope . Do people really wish to live in an area with gridlocked roads , over crowded schools, and increased pollution? Surely there must be more suitable places to build houses that won’t impact on our precious countryside . Soon there will be no green spaces left just a sea of houses. How depressing!

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  8. I managed to listen in to the meeting but couldn’t ask a question or vote as I too live just outside of Bramcote but use this area. From what I heard that evening to describe it as ‘overwhelming support’ in the headline with no caveats about how this vote was taken and who was involved is misleading in the extreme. In fact, I’d go so far as to say it is quite shameful. I would suggest that this headline is taken down or at least reworded to make it clear just how few people were actually there – and we don’t know who they were – they could have been representatives of the developers who, of course, will be in favour as they stand to make 5 million.

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    1. Jane: I checked the records of the meeting and your name doesn’t appear on the electronic records. You could of course have listen to the meeting with somebody else. Was this the case?
      The article is quite clear that the this refers to a Bramcote Neighbourhood Forum. meeting. 88% of this meeting supported the park.
      To vote you you have to be a member of Bramcote Neighbourhood Forum and to be a member of Bramcote Neighbourhood Forum you have to live in Bramcote Ward.

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  9. Can I say first that my strong preference would be for this development not to go ahead, for the council to purchase the land which is mostly private, and create a similar larger park which would be a great amenity for the people of Wollaton, Bramcote and Beeston rather than 11 upmarket houses which will do nothing to help the housing crisis. It would also further the creation of a green corridor towards Wollaton Park and allow the planting of many tree. However I believe the proposal is still an improvement on the current situation as it will result in an area of land currently in private ownership becoming permanently available to the public and have a number of the benefits described above albeit in a significantly smaller area. I don’t think we should be building any more in this area, covering land which should be absorbing rain and providing a habitat but the main fact is that it is privately owned so the council and therefore council ratepayers would have to finance this even if a legal route to obtain the land could be found. As some one has said above the best way to object is in large numbers on the planning application. I did that last time and will again.

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  10. To Sandra: Thanks for your reply re SINC’s . I have looked at your reference , Bramcote Ridge website. It does say The area is also designated as a Grade II SINC, (Site Important for Nature Conservation). However this is misleading unless the Friends of Bramcote Ridge can prove otherwise. Please refer to Derfa at https://www.gov.uk/check-your-business-protected-area and go to the map https://magic.defra.gov.uk/ and home in on Bramcote and Wollaton. The only sites listed are the Alexandrina Plantation LNR and the Sandy Lane LNR. The privately owned land is not included. If the Friends of Bramcote Ridge know otherwise, then I shall be pleased to publish their evidence. Please pursue it with them.

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  11. We can debate this until the cows come home. The planning application may go to the Planning Committees of Nottingham City Council and Broxtowe Borough Council on 22 April. This is a controversial matter and the application will be resolved by the Committees with a public debate rather than being delegated to the Council Officers. There will be a detailed reports from the Councils’ Planning Officers for the Councillors on the Planning Committees which will be published with the agendas for the meetings. Look out for the reports and hopefully we will be able to see the Planning Committee Meetings on line.

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  12. Having viewed the Beeston Updated web site this am I would make the following comments

    1. Cllr David Watts Chair of the Planning Committee BBC appears to down play the role of Bramcote Neighbourhood Forum who certainly have every right and within their remit to seek the views of Bramcote Ward Electorate on any planning application and as a body relay those views to the Council. Which they have done so with regard to the Unity Park application

    2. Cllr Steve Carr. BBC for Beeston North and Deputy Leader of the Council quite clearly believes that The Ridge has protected status and the application should be opposed. Would be good to hear from Steve his reasons in full for his opposition to the application and ask will he be lobbying members of the Planning Committee accordingly?

    3. The Unity Park proposals include 2/3 thirds of the old Golf Course which is in Bramcote Ward Again it would be good to know the views of the two Bramcote Ward Councillors not on the Planning Committee, Ian Tyler and Hannah Land if they support the application or otherwise and likewise will they be lobbying accordingly?

    As David clearly says on Beeston Updated it is our elected representatives who make the decisions and their views on this very important application should be offered to those who elected them last year.

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    1. It will be very useful if Councillor Steve Carr can ask the Planning Officers for a definitive statement on what land has protected status. The Alexandrina Plantation and the Sandy Lane Open Space are designated as Local Nature Reserves and appear on Defra’s website. However what is the status of the private land subject to the planning application? Its not on Defra’s website.

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  13. I have seen comments on this and on the beeston Facebook page it was shared to showing a profit of £5m. I wonder if anybody else has noticed that the build costs are missing from that spreadsheet! If they are to be eco-homes that cost will be very high and see little profit to be made based on normal build costs. Less than 15% I suspect.

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  14. The Neighbourhood Forum “overwhelming support” was featured in the Evening Post in an article also heavily quoting the developers who, they say, have been working with members of the Forum on support for the so called Unity Park. The overwhelming 88% was of 61 participants in the e-forum of which 91% voted (leaving 55 voters). 88% of 55 is 49. So the supposed future of the site and its development is “overwhelmingly supported” by 49 people. Who they were and whether they were members of BNF is unknown and how and who the developers worked with is also unknown. Off hand I thought that BNF has around 150 members.

    As to likely profit from this scheme, let us for example consider (purely for academic interest) that the 9 four bedroom properties will sell at a minimum of around £700K (total £6.3 million) and the two big properties at the top of the hill sell at around £1 million each making a total gross income of £8.3 million. Building costs will not be anywhere near this and the cost of the site was £200K – we have yet to see what would become of the supposed £1 million to be spent on Unity Park after costs, fees and contingencies are deducted. I think we should be open eyed about the motivation of these proposals, the developers (I believe they said at one point there were four of them) will, in the purely notional example above, trouser well over £1 million each. But they love Bramcote Ridge with a pure and simple love of nature!!

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  15. I have to correct some of the comments about the protection on this land. Broxtowe’s Local Plan adopted in October 2019 and approved by a Government inspector makes this crystal clear.

    The area of the Bramcote Ridge is designated as Local Green Space under paragraphs 76-78 of the National Planning Policy Framework. It is given additional protection as a Prominent Area for Special Protection and a Protected Open Area.

    Permission for harmful development will only be given in “very exceptional circumstances.“

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