Rt Hon Anna Soubry MP – Today’s EU debate and More

Anna Soubry writes:

EU debate – An All Party Event

JN1This evening’s debate on whether we should remain in or leave the EU will have representatives from all political parties. I am delighted that Broxtowe Labour, Lib Dems and the Green Party will be joining in the debate at the Pearson Centre in Beeston at 6pm – 8pm.

UKIP’s Douglas Carswell MP will speak in favour of us leaving the EU supported by Nigel Baxter a Nottingham businessman and firm “outer”. Arguing we should vote to remain in, is my colleague and Solicitor General, Robert Buckland MP and Kate Godfrey from Stronger In.

John Hess the former BBC East Midlands Today Political Editor is in the chair and you can be assured that his emphasis will be on getting contributions and questions from the audience i.e.: you!.

I very much hope you will come along – hear the arguments, get the facts and take part.

Stronger In – Making the Case in Broxtowe

JN2The all party Stronger In campaign is planning a number of events in Broxtowe in the run up to polling day on June 23rd. If you would like to join us then please let me know.

As you know I am firmly of the view we are stronger, safer and better off remaining in the EU and am pleased to be campaigning with people of all and no political persuasions on this important issue.

Support Stronger In here >>>

Huge Turnout to Discuss Plans for Chetwynd Barracks

Over 180 people signed up to be part of the Neighbourhood Forum which will go on to develop a Neighbourhood Plan for Toton and Chilwell Meadows.

Over 180 people signed up to be part of the Neighbourhood Forum which will go on to develop a Neighbourhood Plan for Toton and Chilwell Meadows.

Almost 250 residents packed out a public meeting to discuss controversial plans to sell off Chetwynd Barracks. Everyone who gave me their email address will have already received a summary of the meeting and other details.

I have arranged a meeting with the relevant Defence Minister and his officials to discuss all the issues raised by residents. It is fair to say there was concern – mounting to anger – at plans for 800 houses on the Barracks. Toton, Chilwell Meadows and its surrounding areas in Chilwell already suffer from poor infrastructure and strained services.

The way forward is for local people to come together and develop their plan for the area, working with Broxtowe Borough Council.

Creating a Neighbourhood Forum is the first stage and I am delighted so many people have signed up to join it. The first meeting of the Neighbourhood Forum is next Wednesday at 7.30pm in the Village – details in the diary.

and finally …….

Congratulations to Attenborough resident and President of Nottingham and District Angling Societies, Alan Hatton who has secured a £65,000 grant to provide better access and facilities at Holme Pierrepont for younger and disabled anglers. I was keen to support his application to Sport England and am delighted it was successful.

There are lots of great events coming up in the next few weeks. I am particularly looking forward to the Hemlock Happening and all the street parties to mark the Queen’s 90th Birthday.

Hope to see you tomorrow evening at the debate but if not some time soon.

As ever,

Anna

What’s on in Broxtowe
Thursday 2 June
EU Debate – In V Out
6pm till 8pm
Where: The Pearson Centre, Nuart Road, Beeston.
What’s on: Speakers from the Vote Leave and Stronger In campaigns go head to head.
Friday 3 June
Bake Off – Stapleford
9:30am till 12 noon
Where: The Carnegie Centre, Warren Avenue, Stapleford.
What’s on: Full details here.
Saturday 4 June
Farmers Market – Stapleford
9am till 2pm
Where: Walter Parker Memorial Square, Derby Road, Stapleford.

Saturday mornings with Dig In – Stapleford
10am till 12 noon
Where: Albany Allotments, Pasture Road, Stapleford, NG9 8HZ.
What’s on: Full details here.

Stapleford WI – Jumble Sale
1:30pm till 3:30pm
Where: The Meeting Place, Stapleford.
Sunday 5 June
Family Fun Sunday – Nuthall
1pm till 5pm
Where: Basil Russell Playing fields, Maple Drive, Nuthall.
What’s on: Free family day out with; bouncy castle, crafts, games, Punch and Judy, magic shows and much more.

Kimberley Triathlon
7am till 1pm
Where: Kimberley leisure Centre.
What’s on: Full details here.

Cossall Open Gardens
1pm till 5pm
What’s on: Full details here.

Plant Sale – Bramcote Old Church Tower
12 noon till 4pm
Where: Bramcote Old Church Tower, Moss Drive, Bramcote.
What’s on: Free entry, there will also be refreshments on sale.
Monday 6 June
Bramcote CAT meeting
7pm till 8:30pm
Where: Bramcote Memorial Hall.

Beeston Weekly Market
9am till 3pm
Where: The Square Beeston.
Tuesday 7 June
Treasure Hunt and BBQ
6pm
Where: Attenborough Village Hall.
What’s on: 2nd Attenborough Scout Group’s open evening which includes a BBQ and treasure hunt.
Wednesday 8 June
Wednesday mornings with Dig In – Stapleford
10am till 12 noon
Where: Albany Allotments, Pasture Road, Stapleford, NG9 8HZ.
What’s on: Full details here.

Toton and Chilwell Meadows CAT meeting and Neighbourhood Forum
7.30pm till 8.30pm
Where: The Vibe Suite, The Village Hotel.

Thursday 9 June
Chilwell West CAT meeting
7pm till 8.30pm
Where: Chilwell Community Centre, Inham Road.
Friday 10 June
Beeston Arts and Crafts Fair
10.30am till 4.30pm
Where: The Square, High Road, Beeston.
Saturday 11 June
Hemlock Happening
1pm till 10pm
Where: Bramcote Hills Park, Bramcote, NG9 3JT.
What’s on: A free fun packed day with a great variety of music,dance, arts and craft activities, sports, fireworks display and much more.

Guided walk – Greasley
10:30am
Where: Meeting in the car park at Colliers Wood, Moorgreen, NG16 3QU.
What’s on: Full details here.

Beeston Arts and Crafts Fair
10:30am till 4:30pm
Where: The Square, High Road, Beeston.

Saturday mornings with Dig In – Stapleford
10am till 12 noon
Where: Albany Allotments, Pasture Road, Stapleford, NG9 8HZ.
What’s on: Full details here.

Beeston and Chilwell Garden Trail
1pm till 5pm
What’s on: Full details here.

ABC Art Trail
1pm till 5pm
Where: Attenborough, Beeston and Chilwell.
What’s on: Art trail with 24 local artists, full details here.
Sunday 12 June
St Michael’s Royal Tea Celebrations
4pm till 5:45pm
Where: St Michael’s Church, Bramcote, NG9 3HD.
What’s on: Commemorating the 90th birthday of HRH Queen Elizabeth II. Tickets cost £4 for adults and £2 for children.

Heritage Walks – The Inns and Pubs of Beeston
2:30pm till 4:30pm
Where: Starting form the Podium, Beeston Square.
What’s on: The walk, which will remain firmly outside the pubs and inns will take in their history and where possible their ownership and occupation.

Queen’s 90th Birthday Street Party
2:30pm till 5pm
Where: Turning Point, Fletcher Road, Beeston.

ABC Art Trail
1pm till 5pm
Where: Attenborough, Beeston and Chilwell.
What’s on: Art trail with 24 local artists, full details here.

Beeston and Chilwell Garden Trail
1pm till 5pm
What’s on: Full details here.
Monday 13 June
Beeston Weekly Market
9am till 3pm
Where: The Square Beeston.
Tuesday 14 June
Stapleford and District Local History Society – Meeting
7pm
Where: St Helen’s Church Hall, Frederick Road, Stapleford.
What’s on: The British Legion Poppies by Nigel Brooks.
Wednesday 15 June
Beeston and District Local History Society – talk
7:30pm
Where: Chilwell Memorial Hall.
What’s on: A talk by John Beckett “Beeston, Chilwell and the battle of the Somme 1916”

Wednesday mornings with Dig In – Stapleford
10am till 12 noon
Where: Albany Allotments, Pasture Road, Stapleford, NG9 8HZ.
What’s on: Full details here.
Saturday 18 June
The Kimberley Jam – Music Festival
From 12 noon
What’s on: An annual music event held across the great pubs and bars of Kimberley supporting The Ryan Lee Trust.

Saturday mornings with Dig In – Stapleford
10am till 12 noon
Where: Albany Allotments, Pasture Road, Stapleford, NG9 8HZ.
What’s on: Full details here.

Beeston Monthly Farmers Market
9am till 2pm
Where: The Square Beeston.

Midsummer Pub Ramble – Bramcote Hills Community Association
What’s on: Please contact John Spencer for the full details on 01159258618. The plan is to meet in a pub for coffee and place the food order then take a 2 hour walk and then return to the pub for lunch.

Beeston Wildlife Group – Walk
10am till 1pm
Where: Meeting in the car park at Attenborough Nature Reserve, NG9 6DY.
Tuesday 21 June
Trowell WI – Fashion Show
7:30pm
Where: Trowell Parish Hall, Stapleford Road, Trowell, NG9 3QA.
What’s on: Fashion Show presented by SOS Fashions. Cost £2 which includes light refreshments.
Wednesday 22 June
Wednesday mornings with Dig In – Stapleford
10am till 12 noon
Where: Albany Allotments, Pasture Road, Stapleford, NG9 8HZ.
What’s on: Full details here.
Thursday 23 June
Retired Residents’ Tea Party
2pm till 4pm
Where: Bramcote Memorial Hall.
What’s on: Bramcote Hills Community Association are hosting a tea party for the Queen’s 90th Birthday Celebrations. Cost is £2 per person.
Friday 24 June
Coffee Morning – Stapleford Town Council
10am till 12 noon
Where: Carnegie Centre, Warren Avenue, Stapleford.
What’s on: Stapleford Town Council are holding a coffee morning in support of Armed Forces Day. All monies raised will be donated to Service Charities.
Saturday 25 June
Help for Heroes Charity Event
All day
Where: Pure Gym, Beeston Square.
What’s on: Please go along to show your support.

Summer Carnival – Chilwell
12 noon till 3:30pm
Where: College House Junior School.
What’s on: Summer Carnival with car boot sale, arena performances, children’s rides and inflatables, games, refreshments and much more.

Saturday mornings with Dig In – Stapleford
10am till 12 noon
Where: Albany Allotments, Pasture Road, Stapleford, NG9 8HZ.
What’s on: Full details here.

Blooming Great Tea Party
12 noon till 4pm
Where: 40 Chetwynd Road, Toton, NG9 6FT.
What’s on: In aid of Marie Curie, come along and join in raising money for a ‘blooming’ great cause.
Tuesday 28 June
‘Young at Heart’ Club
1:30pm
Where: Equalised Working Men’s Club.
What’s on: The club is for senior citizens aged 60 plus and consists of live entertainment, dancing, a few games of bingo plus a free buffet.
Wednesday 29 June
Attenborough and Chilwell east CAT meeting
7pm till 8:30pm
Where: Attenborough Village Hall.

Anna Soubry MP
Barton House, 61 High Road, Chilwell, NG9 4AJ
0115 943 6507
anna.soubry.mp@parliament.uk
www.annasoubry.org.uk

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31 Responses to Rt Hon Anna Soubry MP – Today’s EU debate and More

  1. Joan Wade says:

    We need to start thinking how Bramcote and other towns will accommodate these people from Spain and the rest of Europe if Brexit goes ahead.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/02/brexit-vote-could-affect-brits-right-live-in-spain-spanish-pm-mariano-rajoy

  2. Barry Morrison says:

    Brits have been living and working in Spain since before either country became members of this shambles called the EU..They’ve pumped billions into a country whose finances are in a terrible state so is Spain going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg and what about the hundreds of Americans and other non EU nationals who live in Spain..But then again, if you#ve read it in The Guardian………………………..

    • Joan Wade says:

      The comments come from the Spanish Prime Minister Barry Morison and are quoted by several news outlets today not just the Guardian. I do not claim expertise in Spanish politics but I think that there just might be the possibility that the Spanish Prime Minster is in a better position to speak for the Spanish Government and people than you are Barry.

      • Barry Morrison says:

        And the Dutch politician yesterday, and Angela Merkel today..They’re getting worried, very worried.

      • Joan Wade says:

        Getting worried or pointing out the consequences of this country isolating itself from the rest of Europe? I do not know if you saw but an opinion poll out recently showed that 7 out of 10 French people are very keen to see the UK leave the EU. It seems that they are hoping to get their hands on the EU benefits currently flowing to the UK.

    • Ian Blakeley says:

      Joan, it’s all a bluff. The Spanish PM has a general election coming on 26 June at which he is likely to be out of a job. Have any of the other parties in Spain threatened the expat Brits and others with expulsion? Also concentrating on British people is likely to be construed as racist and would certainly be hammered by the European Court of Human Rights, as well as the European Court of Justice.

      ….they are hoping to get their hands on the EU benefits currently flowing to the UK. And what benefits might they be Joan? Those “benefits” are the residue of what the UK pays to the EU after everyone else has finished dipping their hands in.

      Many of the major EU countries don’t want the UK to leave, not because they value us, but because if we do leave their own populace will also want to have a ‘democratic’ say in their own lives. I say major as the minor countries such as Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia are all net recipients from the EU gravy train. (budget)

      And the ‘candidate countries Romania, Albania and the Balkan countries want to join because the EU will lavish them with cash from the majors to allow them to “develop”(?) once they do become members.

      If the EU is so wonderful why is Iceland no going to hold a referendum about joining.

  3. Paul Nathanail says:

    Bramcote residents may enjoy hearing the suggestions of an unemployed former finance minister… Recorded at a #GuardianLive event on 25 Oct 2015
    why Britain must stay in Europe (https://youtu.be/md6_WfF9Ky0 )

    Go to 36’30” for tangible suggestions on how to reform the EU with no treaty changes, no new institutions etc.

  4. Barry Morrison says:

    All well and good Paul but you know as well as I do that the EU leaders will never agree to anything democratic and as for being open about TTIP well you can forget that..They’re livid now that so much about TTIP is being leaked when they’re trying their hardest to keep it as secret as possible.

    • Paul Nathanail says:

      You credit me with undeserved insight into EU leaders’ views Barry!

      At the risk of being pigeon-holed, I am going to quote a man with whom I instinctively disagree but on this occasion I find myself respecting his wisdom:
      Those in positions of economic, social and political power should always be asked five questions:
      “What power have you got?”
      “Where did you get it from?”
      “In whose interests do you use it?”
      “To whom are you accountable?”
      “How do we get rid of you?”

      • Barry Morrison says:

        In the case of EU leaders(The EU Commission)here are the answers
        1) Virtually unlimited
        2) The people via elected governments
        3) Our own
        4) Nobody
        5) You can’t

      • Ian Blakeley says:

        I disagree with your answer to point 2 Barry. Surely the correct answer is:- From our mates in the various European Governments who ignore their electorates wishes.

        The people have got ‘sod all’ to do with it.

  5. RichHartman says:

    Ms Soubry says residents are angry about potentially 800 houses on Chetwynd Barracks – but this likelihood is a direct result of her government’s policies: defence cutbacks so the land is surplus to MOD needs, compelling councils to find more and more land for housing so we can accommodate population growth (our own, plus uncontrolled migrants from Europe and beyond), and forcing councils to grant planning consent for new housing on any scrap of land that isn’t greenbelt (although she has failed to deliver on her promise to ‘save the greenbelt’), and if councils don’t ensure houses actually get built they are forced to grant even more consents.
    Ms Soubry reports that there is poor infrastructure and strained services – if this is true (why has her government not invested in the infrastructure then?) then here is her chance with her MOD connections to sort it out and require her government to do what needs to be done before releasing the land for development rather than leaving it to developers who are motivated solely by profit. Or maybe a promise to ‘save’ the Barracks site from development is emerging.

  6. Ian Blakeley says:

    I went to the debate last evening. Quite enjoyed listening to the ‘speakers’ trying to answer the points made by the audience. Both sides tried to make a good case and luckily there was no stupid statements such as ‘there will be a war’. However I fail to see how Kate Godfrey could keep on about reforming the EU from the inside when it must be obvious even to her, that will simply just not happen – ever.

    • Joan Wade says:

      Anyone who has any knowledge of history or just lived on this planet for a few decades will know just how easily countries do slip into war. Several thousand years of European history has shown as that trade issues have often led to war. Nobody is suggesting that World War 3 will start at the end of June. However, the stark reality is that as a nation we have two choices. Either we are prepared to enter trade agreements with other countries in the world or we can seek to isolate our nation from the rest of the world. Isolation will lead to severe shortages of basic materials including food. Trade agreements inevitably mean making some compromises and pooling sovereignty. Norway is outside the EU. We may be able to trade with the EU on similar terms – accepting all the current obligations and future ones imposed upon us but having no say. This appears to be what the Brexiteers are arguing for. A country that is ruled by others rather than leading the way. If I am wrong and it is isolation that they seek then we do need to think about what this will mean.

      • Barry Morrison says:

        If we stay in the EU within 20 years we’ll be totally ruled by the EU..We’ll also be part of the EU army..We’ll also have been forced into the Euro and any veto we may have will mean nothing..However, none of this will mean anything when Vladimir Putin decides that he wants his Baltic States back/

      • Joan Wade says:

        That is very much the Brexit message Barry. However, I just do not buy into this idea that the British people are or will become weak minded and easily led. At the moment we have a very good deal within the EU. As a share of gross national income, the UK pays the least of all Member States into the EU budget but gets a great number of significant benefits in return. We have negotiated opt outs on all major issues. We should see ourselves as a strong nation that is ready to play a leadership role in Europe and elsewhere and not look to run and hide.

      • Ian Blakeley says:

        As a share of gross national income, the UK pays the least of all Member States into the EU budget: which is of course why the EU decided that they wanted an extra £1.7bn in 2014.
        We have negotiated opt outs on all major issues: on which the Parliament and Council of Ministers has yet to vote. If we stay in the negotiated issues will be voted down; that is if the Commissars haven’t already said NO.

        Think back 72 years today, and ponder awhile.

  7. Howard Shakespeare says:

    The EU needs the UK. The UK certainly does not need the EU.
    Turn things around and view Brexit from an EU perspective.
    The second largest and most dynamic economy is no longer part of the union. All over the remaining EU there are calls for referenda. Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Hungary and even France have large movements for independence.
    The euro has destabilised the economies of southern Europe. Greece is bankrupt. Italy has a banking crisis which is becoming crirltical. Spanish banks are losing billions of euros ever week. France could soon be drawn in. The E.C.B. prints money, calling it quantitive easing, to prop up the failing economies. That money is devoid of collateral.
    Extremist parties are growing all over the EU. Greece has an extremist, yet impotent, Syriza government. Golden Dawn are waiting in the wings.
    Mass unemployment and poverty exists all over the south of the continent. The free state health care services are being wound down. In fact it has already disappeared in Greece.
    One of the few rich nations, and net contributors to the EU budget, the UK, will have left.
    The EU will continue to descend into an economic, social and political tempest.
    After a short period of minor volitality, the UK economy will stabilise and grow after Brexit. The UK will be seen as a safe haven, and investment will flow into our nation from a crumbling European Union.

    • Joan Wade says:

      Howard – we pay less into the EU than France, Germany or Italy. This may be one of the reasons why opinion polls are showing that the people in these countries are keen to see us leave. The Spanish are already voicing what they see as the advantages to Spain of a UK exit. If we do come out it is highly likely that the Scottish people will seek to remain with the EU and pull out of the UK. You can find a detailed breakdown of the contribution position at http://ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Who-pays-for-the-EU-and-how-much-does-it-cost-the-UK-Disentangling-fact-from-fiction-in-the-EU-Budget-Professor-Iain-Begg.pdf

      • Howard Shakespeare says:

        Ms Wade. Isn’t it strange that Jeremy Corbyn, who was a lifetime eurosceptic, has suddenly changed course and backed remain, even though his commitment to the EU is not exactly enthusiastic.
        Did Corbyn think that nobody would notice when twenty years of criticism of the EU disappeared from his website in a matter of hours.
        It is also worth noting that many Labour agents were on the fence until told what to think from Labour HQ.
        Labour voters are split approximately 50/50 between leave and remain.
        The Labour party backs remain.
        Conservative voters favour leave by 75 to 80%.
        The Conservative party is neutral.
        Naturally, UKIP is 100% in favour of leaving.
        I suggest you take a look at ‘Labour Leave’ on Facebook.

      • Joan Wade says:

        Howard – You have posted a reply to my earlier post but you appear to have gone off at a tangent and starting writing about the Labour Party. I am not in position to comment on the Labour Party or Jeremy Corbyn. I also do not see the connection with what you say here and my earlier post that you were replying to. However, on the more general point that you make I see nothing incompatible with a eurosceptic voting to remain in the EU. It is quite possible to think that something needs reform and yet at the same time be willing to lead from the front rather than being a quitter and risk putting the country’s future prosperity in jeopardy.

      • Barry Morrison says:

        Who says these people are keen to see us leave?. Get real and stop looking at silly polls which might support what you want to say but in reality mean absolutely damn all.
        It bears just about as much creedence as the non existent exhaustive consultation regarding the tram a few years ago

      • Ian Blakeley says:

        Ref Jeremy Corbyns sudden about turn about Europe. What what he shown by the present administration that caused the about face, something that we mere mortals aren’t permitted to be privy to.

      • Without wishing to suggest it is in any way a vote clincher one way or another, the UK is a net contributor and the latest figures I can find say we are second only to Germany in that respect. The report Ms Wade links to show our NET contribution as being some £8.5B in 2015 – interestingly lower than 2014 and 2013 and of course only about 1/8 of the annual deficit for that year.

  8. Barry Morrison says:

    Opinion polss…For heaven’s sake let’s have some reality..These will be the same polls which predicted a labour win last may

  9. Joan Wade says:

    Just about everyone who has studied the matter accepts that if we come out of the EU we will be worse off financially. Even the main Brexiteers have conceded that in the short term this is likely to be the case (and remember that when it comes to the economy the short term economic cycle could mean 20 years or more.) However, as former Prime Minister John Major has pointed out what the Brexiteers have utterly failed to do is point out how this country moves forward and trades after a vote to come out. As an island nation we can not live in isolation. We have to trade. With breathtaking naivety the Brexiteers assert that Europe will still trade with us after we leave. The French have already said “non” The Spanish are already saying how they can no longer support British migrants. Do the Brexiteers expect the EU commission to come to our rescue? Of course we can look to trade with the rest of the world. The Americans have said we can join the back of the queue. Perhaps North Korea might look favourably upon us. The Brexiteers must address this question.

  10. Barry Morrison says:

    Ah, John Major..This would be the same John Major who over 20 years ago warned that it would be bad for Britain if we left the ERM (European Rate Mechanism) which was the predessor to the Euro..We left the ERM and the British economy recovered.and did well for years..And if you’re talking as an island nation we cannot live in isolation then please tell me how we managed all those years before Heath signed on the EEC dotted line in 1972.. The Americans put us at the back of the queue?. Well Obama won’t be president then so you can forget all that nonsense.And as for European nations not trading with is who’s going to buy all the German and Swedish cars?. Who’s going to buy the industrial machinery and trams from Spain?, who’s going to buy French cauliflowers while ours are out of season?..No, I don’t fall for all the stuff coming from Brexit as I made my mind up and formed my opinion way before Cameron boxed himself into a corner and had to announce a referendum and I still want to know where the French and Spanish are going to get much needed finance pumped into their respective economies if they try penalising the Brits for voting to leave the EU (which by the way I don’t think will happen)..I keep seeing various reports about respected economists forecasting doom and gloom if we do leave..No doubt these are the same kind of people such as the CBI who, about 16 forecast that it would be bad for Britain if we did’nt join the Euro..Well we know what happened there…And the same kind of people who said they could’nt see the financial crash of 2008 coming..Well they should have gone to the Top House in Bramcote as one night in 2006 five of us were discussing what was happening and the general concensus of us five blokes was that the way things were looking things would take a downturn..Fast forward to 2008 and, well, the rest is history..No, there’s far too much scaremongering from both sides coming out here and between themthey’ve made a right ruddy mess of the whole thing.

    • Joan Wade says:

      Barry – Prior to joining the EU a lot of trade was done with what was left of the British Empire. For years we had gone out to other parts of the world, subjugated people and declared that we had an Empire on which the sun never set. We just do not have the military prowess to take the world on like this in modern times and the Brexiteers have said that they don’t want war. You still need to answer the question that has been asked.

  11. Ian Blakeley says:

    Best not talk about Empires Joan, especially when you fail to mention the Germans, Dutch, Spanish and Belgians who, by and large, treated their subjugates far worse than we did.

    • Joan Wade says:

      I am not looking at the relative merits of different empires. I am explaining why we can not just think we will return to the trade position we had before we joined the EU. In fairness I did fail to address Barry’s point about trading with the Germans, the French etc. Yes – we can try and seek trade agreements with the EU. We will no doubt have to agree to far more stringent obligations than we currently have as a member of the EU and will have no say in matters but yes going cap in hand begging to the EU Commission is an option for us. Just not a route I wish this country to go down.

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